Hello everyone, First of all sorry for my english, hope you can understand! After a long absence I'm back but I preferred to wait a while before coming back because I had a sacred experience .... I'll tell you. First I start with my first test which was the best of all my test.
4-HO-MET
Well-documented
Well-documented
Multiple authoritative sources agree on dosing and effects.
- 5 corroborating sources
- 3 ROAs with full dose ladders
- duration data present
- 19 combo interactions documented
- PubChem toxicity data
- classified Research-chemical
Well-documented
Multiple authoritative sources agree on dosing and effects.
- 5 corroborating sources
- 3 ROAs with full dose ladders
- duration data present
- 19 combo interactions documented
- PubChem toxicity data
- classified Research-chemical
Aliases: Metocin, Methylcybin, 4homet, homet
Summary
4-HO-MET is a synthetic tryptamine analogue of psilocin first synthesized by Alexander Shulgin. Often described as more recreational than psilocybin mushrooms due to its lighter headspace and more prominent visual effects with less cognitive intensity. Individual response varies significantly; some users report intense experiences at low doses while others report mild effects at higher doses, possibly due to variations in neurochemistry, metabolism, or batch quality.
Perspectives
“4-HO-MET felt kinda like mushrooms, but without the overwhelming-ness or the destruction of autonomy. Neutered mushrooms—providing psychedelic effects while maintaining greater personal control.”
“This was still a positive low-end experience, with no real negatives or unwanted side effects. I hope to return to this in due course.”
Dose Information
| ROA | Light | Common | Strong | Heavy |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Oral | 5-15mg | 15-25mg | 25-45mg | 45mg+ |
| Intravenous | 5mg | 10-15mg | 20mg | 20mg+ |
| Smoked | 10-25mg | 25-35mg | 35-60mg | 60mg+ |
Light
Common
Strong
Heavy
Onset, Duration & After-effects
| ROA | Onset | Comeup | Peak | Offset | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Oral | 15-40 min | 30-60 min | 2-3 hrs | 60-90 min | 4-6 hrs |
| Insufflated | 5-25 min | - | - | - | 3-7 hrs |
| Intravenous | 2-10 min | - | - | - | 3-7 hrs |
| Smoked | 2 min | - | - | - | 25-45 min |
Effect Profile
132 reportsScores (1–10) curated from multiple sources:
- Effect keyword matching from PsychonautWiki catalog
- Validated against 104 Erowid trip reports
- Weighted by importance: core (×3), major (×2), minor (×1)
Psychedelic
8.4
Intense
8/10
Strong visuals, auditory effects, body load, and headspace
Visual Intensity
×3
10
color enhancement
drifting
synaesthesia
pattern recognition enhancement
colour shifting
after images
+1 more
Headspace Depth
×3
9
conceptual thinking
time distortion
Auditory Effects
×1
10
synaesthesia
Body Load / Somatic Effects
×1
10
nausea
temperature regulation suppression
increased heart rate
Tolerance
Build-up
develops rapidly after a single use
Reset
7–14 days for baseline
Tolerance Decay
Full tolerance
6h
Half tolerance
7d
Baseline
~14d
Acute tolerance: develops within a single session — the reset numbers above apply after sustained heavy use, not after one binge. Within-session tachyphylaxis usually resets largely overnight.
Estimates reflect typical serotonergic psychedelic patterns; individual variability is high and data are anecdotal/community-derived. Redosing within the same day produces diminishing returns.
Cross-Tolerances
Effects
Aggregated from 104 Erowid and 28 Bluelight experience reports
Positive Effects 67
Color Enhancement
60.6%
89%
Music Enhancement
50.8%
86%
Euphoria
47.0%
90%
Joy
46.4%
86%
Geometric Imagery
39.3%
90%
Introspection
37.1%
82%
Awe
35.7%
83%
Closed-Eye Visuals
34.9%
91%
Stimulation
33.4%
80%
Surface Breathing
32.1%
87%
Contentment
28.6%
82%
Entity Imagery
28.6%
83%
Focus Enhancement
27.3%
82%
Sedation
27.3%
80%
Tactile Enhancement
27.3%
85%
Visual Trails
21.4%
82%
Patterning
21.4%
92%
Insight
21.4%
84%
Ego Dissolution
19.7%
86%
Open-Eye Visuals
18.2%
91%
Adverse Effects 40
Anxiety
59.9%
82%
Body Load
42.9%
75%
Confusion
34.1%
77%
Nausea
30.3%
90%
Fear
25.0%
88%
Auditory Effects
25.0%
81%
Panic
17.9%
86%
Thought Disorganization
17.9%
81%
Muscle Tension
17.3%
70%
Depersonalization
14.3%
86%
Thought Loops
13.6%
77%
Dysphoria
10.7%
83%
Sweating
10.6%
85%
Headache
9.9%
75%
Jaw Clenching
7.5%
82%
Paranoid Ideation
7.1%
80%
Frequent Urination
7.1%
78%
Derealization
7.1%
85%
Identity Confusion
7.1%
88%
Motor Impairment
6.8%
78%
Combinations
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Community Trip Reports
Anecdotal first-person accounts from Reddit, Erowid, and Bluelight. Click a source to expand. Reports are harm-reduction context, not medical guidance.
Erowid 8 reports 3 positive 3 neutral 2 cautionary visit
T0:00-Dose after a light meal (a small bag of chips and some wafers) T0:40-Not feeling anything other than some nausea T1:10-Drink a lot of water. This seem to break the capsule. Am suddenly hit with a burgeoning comeup, like a bubble inflating. Ho boy. No sensory effects yet, just nausea and lightheadedness.
Hello, all. I'm here to share with whatever audience a story of somewhat of a spiritual awakening of 3 people. This is a story of 17-year-old me experimenting with 4-hydroxylized tryptamines with two of my best friends, N and S.
This was my second time with this drug, and the first for my friend. We are both very experienced with a wide variety of classical and novel psychedelics, although we rarely push the doses to the high level and even more rarely take heavy doses.
Setting: My bedroom in my hometown Much has happened since writing up this experience with 4 HO MET [two weeks ago], appearing to be one of many seeds to which my life has blossomed in unexpected directions, for some brief condensed conscious background: I started a new job which has brought about a growing help to mys...
This write-up will cover the last three experiences I've had with metocin since I last uploaded any trip reports. These three trips were all wonderful, but I didn't feel that they all really called for individual reports of their own.
[Erowid Note: Two samples of powder (even of the same chemical) with equivalent volumes won't necessarily weigh the same. For this reason, eyeballing is an inaccurate and potentially dangerous method of measuring, particularly for substances that are active in very small amounts.
7:15PM: Took the dose dissolved in water with my boyfriend. I was really nervous because I had taken a dose of 2-CE recently and it had messed with my stomach to the point where I had a horrible trip and it made me never want to trip again. 7:35PM: I'm feeling really bad effects at this time.
Bluelight 2 threads 2 neutral visit
After my last experience with smoked DMT, I was left with the feeling that I had been shown all that this particular material would be able to show me at this point in my life. Coming down from my last DMT flash, I felt a voice of guidance communicate to me to return to exploring the sacred mushroom and Ayahuasca.
After my first experience with metocin I felt inclined to try to achieve “vegetable television” with this material. “Vegetable television” is a term that was used most famously by Terence McKenna to describe the state of combining psilocybin/psilocin mushrooms with a dose of smoked Syrian rue (Peganum harmala) seeds.
Bluelight Reference Guide
Tryptamines The Big & Dandy 4-HO-MET Thread - Part 3 - 4-HO-ME's for life
Welcome to the Big & Dandy 4-HO-MET Thread - Version 3 CAS# for freebase: 77872-41-4 Previous threads: Previous Big & Dandy Thread (Part 2) First Big & Dandy Thread Subthreads: Solubility & stability Health & safety External Links: Wikipedia Page on 4-HO-MET Erowid 4-HO-MET Vault Erowid Trip Reports Excerpt from TIHKAL...
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