4-HO-PiPT - first trial - threshold I just tested my 4-HO-PiPT with Ehrlich and Froehde, because that's about all that I can think of. It tested as expected, so it's some kind of indole.
4-HO-PiPT
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- 2 corroborating sources
- 1 ROA with full dose ladder
- duration data present
- 19 combo interactions documented
- classified Research-chemical
- dose data not in PW/TripSit (unverifiable)
- 2 corroborating sources
- 1 ROA with full dose ladder
- duration data present
- 19 combo interactions documented
- classified Research-chemical
- dose data not in PW/TripSit (unverifiable)
Aliases: Piprocin
Summary
4-HO-PiPT is a novel substituted tryptamine first identified in 2021 in British Columbia, Canada. It is characterized by an unusually short duration (2-4 hours) compared to most psychedelics, with intense visuals and a heavy bodyload. Users report strong tactile enhancement, significant nausea, confusion, and disorientation during the peak.
Perspectives
“4-HO-PiPT was oddly intense in some respects, mild in others. The visual space was an explosion of forms and energy, great iridescent blue ripples with my eyes open and a world of vibrant metallic glowing forms, twisting and dancing with my eyes closed.”
Dose Information
Dose basis. Dose ranges are aggregated from limited user reports and analog inference from closely related 4βsubstituted tryptamines; high interindividual variabilityβstart with an allergy test (0.5β1 mg) and titrate slowly. Accurately weigh with a milligram scale; for small increments consider volumetric dosing (TripSit Volumetric Converter). Salt form affects mass potency: like other 4βsub tryptamines, fumarate vs HCl/freebase can differ by ~10β25% by weight; vendors may vary. Information is primarily anecdotal and should be treated as tentative. (Dose figures and this note are from Drugs.Wiki.)
| ROA | Light | Common | Strong | Heavy |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Oral | 5-10mg | 10-20mg | 20-30mg | 30mg+ |
Onset, Duration & After-effects
| ROA | Onset | Comeup | Peak | Offset | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Oral | 15-30 min | 15-30 min | 30-60 min | 1-2 hrs | 2-4 hrs |
Effect Profile
5 reportsScores (1–10) curated from multiple sources:
- Effect keyword matching from PsychonautWiki catalog
- Weighted by importance: core (×3), major (×2), minor (×1)
Strong body load with moderate visuals, mild headspace
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4-HO-PiPT Source: SubstanceSearch (substancesearch.com) Oral dose (mg): threshold 2 Β· light 5-10 Β· common 10-20 Β· strong 20-30 Β· heavy 30+ Oral duration: onset 15-30m Β· come-up 15-30m Β· peak 0.5-1h Β· offset 1-2h Β· total 2-4h Β· after-effects 1-2h Note: ranges are harm-reduction guidance, not a prescription. Start low, go slow, and test your substances.
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Tolerance
Tolerance Decay
Acute tolerance: develops within a single session β the reset numbers above apply after sustained heavy use, not after one binge. Within-session tachyphylaxis usually resets largely overnight.
Acute tachyphylaxis typical of psychedelics develops within the session, with marked shortβterm tolerance for ~24β48 h. By ~1β2 weeks, response approximates baseline. Crossβtolerance across serotonergic psychedelics is expected. Data quality: anecdotal extrapolation from related 4βHO compounds; conservative spacing (β₯14 days) reduces risk of cumulative psychological strain.
Cross-Tolerances
Effects
Aggregated from 5 Erowid experience reports
Positive Effects 7
Adverse Effects 2
Combinations
Cross-Check 4-HO-PiPT with another substanceCommunity Trip Reports
Anecdotal first-person accounts from Reddit, Erowid, and Bluelight. Click a source to expand. Reports are harm-reduction context, not medical guidance. Tags summarise each author's own verdict — how reports are classified.
Erowid 3 reports 1 positive 2 neutral visit
IΒve been experimenting with 4-HO-PiPT fumarate for about a year now. As it is a relatively new substance, I would like to provide the world some documentation with regards to this chemical. IΒve always procured my supply from the same source.
Piprocin, A Novel Experience A few weeks ago I had tried 20mg piprocin (4-HO-PiPT) and made a post on it in r/obscuredrugs. It was a decent substance, good bodyload, a ton of tactile euphoria but mild visuals.
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