4-methylaminorex - First Time - EUPHORIA!!!! I had heard about Ice (4-methylaminorex) and it caught my attention. It seemed almost too good to be true,and also extremely rare. I had also been interested in methamphetamine so when I found an 'Ice' connection I naturally jumped at the chance.
4-MAR
Limited data
Limited data
Sparse data. Doses and effects may be unreliable or untested.
- 4 corroborating sources
- 4 ROAs with full dose ladders
- duration data present
- 29 combo interactions documented
- classified Tentative
- classified Research-chemical
- dose data not in PW/TripSit (unverifiable)
- dose ladder unverifiable and undisclosed β capped
- 4 corroborating sources
- 4 ROAs with full dose ladders
- duration data present
- 29 combo interactions documented
- classified Tentative
- classified Research-chemical
- dose data not in PW/TripSit (unverifiable)
- dose ladder unverifiable and undisclosed β capped
Aliases: Ice, U4ea, U4euh, 4-max, Euphoria
Summary
4-MAR exists as cis- and trans-stereoisomers; recreational preparations typically contain racemic cis-4-MAR. Users report clear empathic stimulation with minimal peripheral side effects at moderate doses (10-20 mg), but pronounced vasoconstriction and compulsive redosing at higher doses. Vaporization produces intense rapid onset despite maintaining 6-8 hour duration.
Dose Information
| ROA | Light | Common | Strong | Heavy |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Oral | 1-5mg | 5-10mg | 10-15mg | 15-20mg+ |
| Insufflated | 5-10mg | 10-30mg | 30-50mg | 50mg+ |
| Smoked / Vaporized | 5-10mg | 10-20mg | 30-60mg | 60mg+ |
| Intravenous | 5-10mg | 10-20mg | 20-40mg | 40mg+ |
Sources· 4 of 4 ladders not fully identified
Oral
Dose ladder — LightβStrong: DrugsPRO · Heavy: not identifiedInsufflated
Dose ladder — source not identifiedSmoked / Vaporized
Dose ladder — source not identifiedIntravenous
Dose ladder — source not identifiedOnset, Duration & After-effects
| ROA | Onset | Comeup | Peak | Offset | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Oral | 0.75-2 hrs | 1-2 hrs | 2-4 hrs | 4-10 hrs | 7.75-18 hrs |
| Insufflated | 20-40 min | 30-60 min | 1-3 hrs | 3-6 hrs | 4.83-10.67 hrs |
| Smoked / Vaporized | 0-1 min | 5-15 min | 1-3 hrs | 4-8 hrs | 5.08-11.27 hrs |
Effect Profile
Scores (0–10) curated from multiple sources:
- Effect keyword matching from PsychonautWiki catalog
- Weighted by importance: core (×3), major (×2), minor (×1)
Moderate stimulation and euphoria with strong anxiety/jitters, mild focus
Tolerance
Tolerance Decay
Effects
Effect glossary — · full glossary
Combinations
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Bluelight 3 threads 2 positive 1 neutral visit
Ice (4-MAR) - 1st time - Amped & Still Awaiting Comedown 1am - at friend's house. was actually planning on chilling sober and kickin' it. i watch the others go at the crystals. i get ancy and decided ive changed my mind. 115am - paul van dyk on the CD player. place roughly 10mg of 4-MAR on a square of foil.
Some background: It was 2010. I was 21 at the time. I wasn't really into stimulants. I'd had coke a few times, usually in combination with other things. Methamphetamine made me feel jumpy. My skin would tingle and I'd feel as if I was breaking out in cold sweats. Not my thing.
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