4-MPM
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- 3 corroborating sources
- 2 ROAs with full dose ladders
- duration data present
- 18 combo interactions documented
- classified Tentative
- classified Research-chemical
- 3 corroborating sources
- 2 ROAs with full dose ladders
- duration data present
- 18 combo interactions documented
- classified Tentative
- classified Research-chemical
Aliases: Pal-747, Bontril, Adipost, Appecon, Melfiat, 4-methylphenmetrazine, mephenmetrazine
Summary
Phendimetrazine is a phenmetrazine prodrug prescribed for short-term obesity management. It metabolizes into active phenmetrazine, which has known abuse potential but with slower onset than direct administration. Tolerance develops rapidly with regular use.
Dose Information
| ROA | Light | Common | Strong | Heavy |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Oral | 5-15mg | 15-25mg | 25-40mg | 40mg+ |
| Insufflated | 5-10mg | 10-20mg | 20-25mg | 25mg+ |
Onset, Duration & After-effects
| ROA | Onset | Comeup | Peak | Offset | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Oral | 20-40 min | 30-60 min | 1-2 hrs | 2-3 hrs | 3.83-6.67 hrs |
| Insufflated | 5-15 min | 15-30 min | 1-2 hrs | 2-3 hrs | 3.33-5.75 hrs |
Effect Profile
Scores (1–10) curated from multiple sources:
- Effect keyword matching from PsychonautWiki catalog
- Weighted by importance: core (×3), major (×2), minor (×1)
Strong stimulation with moderate euphoria, mild empathy, low sensory enhancement
Strong anxiety/jitters with moderate stimulation, euphoria, and focus
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4-MPM Source: SubstanceSearch (substancesearch.com) Oral dose (mg): light 5-15 ยท common 15-25 ยท strong 25-40 ยท heavy 40+ Insufflated dose (mg): light 5-10 ยท common 10-20 ยท strong 20-25 ยท heavy 25+ Oral duration: onset 20-40m ยท come-up 0.5-1h ยท peak 1-2h ยท offset 2-3h ยท total 3.83-6.67h ยท after-effects 1-2h Insufflated duration: onset 5-15m ยท come-up 15-30m ยท peak 1-2h ยท offset 2-3h ยท total 3.33-5.75h ยท after-effects 1-2h Note: ranges are harm-reduction guidance, not a prescription. Start low, go slow, and test your substances.
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Tolerance
Tolerance Decay
Acute tolerance: develops within a single session โ the reset numbers above apply after sustained heavy use, not after one binge. Within-session tachyphylaxis usually resets largely overnight.
Values are heuristic, synthesized from community reports and general stimulant tolerance patterns. Frequent consecutiveโday use produces noticeable acute tolerance; allowing 2+ weeks substantially reduces it.
Effects
- Stimulation
- Increased energy
- Increased energy/alertness
- Increased perspiration
- Increased heart rate
- Vasoconstriction
- Teeth grinding
- Insomnia
- Pupil dilation
- Tachycardia
- Euphoria
- Increased sociability
- Empathy
- Focus enhancement
- Motivation enhancement
- Cognitive euphoria
- Wakefulness
- Compulsive redosing
- Anxiety
- Time distortion
- Thought acceleration
- Increased libido
- Increased music appreciation
- Appetite suppression
- Tinnitus
- Dehydration
- Light sensitivity
- Disinhibition
- Decreased libido
- Increase sexuality
- Visual and audiotory hallucinations itchiness
Combinations
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