I use amphetamines for certain therapeutic benefits, mostly to improve attention and mood. I enjoy psychedelics for recreational use but will occasionally use amphetamines or MDMA for recreation. Always via oral route.
4-FA
Well-documented
Well-documented
Multiple authoritative sources agree on dosing and effects.
- 6 corroborating sources
- 1 ROA with full dose ladder
- duration data present
- 20 combo interactions documented
- PubChem toxicity data
- classified Research-chemical
- 6 corroborating sources
- 1 ROA with full dose ladder
- duration data present
- 20 combo interactions documented
- PubChem toxicity data
- classified Research-chemical
Aliases: Pfa, Rdj, Flux, 4-fmp, Pal-303, 4-Fluoroamphetamine, 4fa
Summary
4-Fluoroamphetamine (also known as 4-FA, 4-FMP, para-Fluoroamphetamine, PAL-303 and colloquially as Flux) is a novel synthetic amphetamine compound that produces a unique progressive mixture of entactogenic and stimulant effects when administered. It is part of a series of fluorinated amphetamine analog that initially included such compounds as 2-FA, 2-FMA, and 3-FA. Anecdotal reports have described the subjective effects of 4-FA as having a moderate MDMA-like entactogenic onset for the initial few hours of the experience that then gradually transitions into traditional amphetamine-type stimulation (for a total duration of around 6 to 8 hours) with residual effects that can last a few hours afterward.
Dose Information
| ROA | Light | Common | Strong | Heavy |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Oral | 40-100mg | 100-130mg | 130-150mg | 150mg+ |
Onset, Duration & After-effects
| ROA | Onset | Comeup | Peak | Offset | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Oral | 30-60 min | 30-75 min | 2.5-3.5 hrs | 2-3 hrs | 6-12 hrs |
| Insufflated | 2-10 min | 15-30 min | 2-3 hrs | 2-3 hrs | 4-8 hrs |
Effect Profile
75 reportsScores (1–10) curated from multiple sources:
- Effect keyword matching from PsychonautWiki catalog
- Validated against 57 Erowid trip reports
- Weighted by importance: core (×3), major (×2), minor (×1)
Strong auditory effects and body load with moderate visuals and headspace
Strong empathy, euphoria, stimulation, and sensory enhancement
Strong stimulation, euphoria, focus, and anxiety/jitters
Tolerance
Tolerance Decay
Acute tolerance: develops within a single session โ the reset numbers above apply after sustained heavy use, not after one binge. Within-session tachyphylaxis usually resets largely overnight.
Anecdotal: tolerance builds quickly with repeated/weekly use and decays over 2โ4+ weeks; cross-tolerance likely overlaps with other amphetamine-like stimulants and serotonergic releasers. Data quality is limited.
Cross-Tolerances
Effects
Aggregated from 57 Erowid and 18 Bluelight experience reports
Positive Effects 29
Adverse Effects 32
Combinations
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Anecdotal first-person accounts from Reddit, Erowid, and Bluelight. Click a source to expand. Reports are harm-reduction context, not medical guidance.
Erowid 8 reports 2 positive 5 neutral 1 cautionary visit
My previous experiences: Alcohol, tobacco, weed, magic mashrooms, LSD, ecstasy pills, meth, mephedrone, 3,4-DMMC, 4-MeMABP, diazepam, opiates (codein, morphine, opium, poppy tea). I have to mention that I have opiate habit (2O poppies/daily).
Age: 19 Sex: Male Smoker: avg. ยฝ a pack/day Weight: 75 kg (about 165 lbs) Health: No health problems Medication: No medication Previous experiences: This is my first experience with this compound. Pretty much a novice in the area, Iยve tried DPT, mephedrone, weed, 4-ho-met, DXM, MDPV and now 4-FMP.
Howdy all, just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents about my 4-fa experiences for the general domain of knowledge. I first obtained 3g of this substance about 3 weeks ago and went through the whole 3g in a week, although I was sharing it pretty liberally some nights so my actual intake over a week was probably only 2g.
Substance: 4-FA fluffy white powder, bought from two vendors who both claim 99% purity, product appears identical from both vendors and seems to be from the same batch. Primary dose from one vendor, redoses from the other vendor.
Chemical: 4-Fluoroamphetamine Dose: Approximately 140 mg to 170 mg (powder/crystals) Body: 70 kg or 155 lb Age at time of experience: 19 Experience date: October 30, 2012 Duration of the effects: 8 hours PROLOGUE: I am a 19 year old student. I have experience with Marijuana, Salvia, MDMA, Cocaine and Alcohol.
The 'trip' of this really isn't a dynamic journey as I would experience on a hallucinogen, so I will explain it in more of an outline/timeline of effects. I take recordings of my state and experience on a voice recorder whenever I notice the effects shifting.
Back ground: I'm a 19 year old male, who has been battling drug abuse since I was 15 years old. I've recently come under better control of my drug use, and I'm not doing them as much, but this hasn't been without a few mishaps.
Bluelight 7 threads 1 positive 5 neutral 1 cautionary visit
4-Fluoroamphetamine-First Time-A Wonderful New Discovery! This experience is a few months old, it occurred just after the New Year. I took notes during the experience but have subsequently lost them, so please forgive any gaps in my memory.
Substance: 4-FA fluffy white powder, bought from two vendors who both claim 99% purity, product appears identical from both vendors and seems to be from the same batch. Primary dose from one vendor, redoses from the other vendor.
I have done most every drug you can name at least once; heroin, coke, LSD, MDMA, you name it. I've always preferred sertogenic stimulants over any other type of drug however, and I abused them as much as I could. Nothing was like 4-FA however.
23/10/2011 - 4-FA, Alcohol 17:31 - 128mg taken (128mg total) (4-FA) 20:14 - 104mg taken (232mg total) (4-FA) 00:50 - 1 Magners (440ml, 4.5% ) 01:11 - 1 Kopparberg (500ml, 4.5% ) Notes: 15:00 - Last ate All doses taken orally 20mg Cipralex taken daily 96 days since last stim (JGG, JWG) 21:26 - 500mg Magnesium 21:40 - 1/...
While having tried alot of sibutramine recently, as well as other substances, none of these motivated me to write about them in the same way as I am doing currently for the title compound.
Taken from my report on erowid 4-Fluoroamphetamine -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DOSE : 150 mg oral 4-Fluoroamphetamine (powder / crystals) BODY WEIGHT : 70 lb INTRODUCTION: 4-fluoro alpha-methylphenethylamine, or 4-FMP/4-FA for short is a largely unknown substance.
Not a particularly detailed report because the events do not necessitate details. Received 1 g 4-FA this afternoon. Measured 30 mg and insufflated in two lines. Stings, but not as bad as other have made it out to be, and certainly nothing like 2C-xyz. After a few minutes, a notably clear and focused headspace arises.
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