4C-D Stats & Data
Pharmacology
DrugBankDescription
Alexander Shulgin reported that the drug was tested by Bristol Laboratories as an antidepressant, in an anecdote where he was explaining how human testing is invaluable (compared to animal testing) on drugs that change the state of the mind. He said, "Before they launched into a full multi-clinic study to determine if it's going to be worth the animal studies or not, every person on the board of directors took it." In animal studies, Ariadne was shown to produce stimulus generalization in rats trained to respond to MDMA or LSD.
Effect Profile
Curated + 5 ReportsStrong body load with mild visuals, low headspace
Strong sensory enhancement with moderate euphoria and stimulation, mild empathy
Strong anxiety/jitters with moderate euphoria and focus, mild stimulation
Tolerance & Pharmacokinetics
drugs.wikiTolerance Decay
Pattern assumed similar to other serotonergic psychedelics: rapid short-term tolerance that decays over ~1–2 weeks. Evidence quality is low and based on analogy plus limited user reports.
Cross-Tolerances
Experience Report Analysis
ErowidDemographics
Gender Distribution
Age Distribution
Reports Over Time
Effect Analysis
ErowidEffects aggregated from 5 experience reports (5 Erowid)
Effect Sentiment Distribution
Confidence Distribution
Positive Effects 7
Adverse Effects 2
Real-World Dose Distribution
62K DosesFrom 7 individual dose entries
Oral (n=6)
Form / Preparation
Most common forms and preparations reported
Harm Reduction
drugs.wiki4C-D (Ariadne) is a rare α-ethyl phenethylamine described in PiHKAL with only threshold-level psychedelia at ~20–30 mg; detailed modern human data remain sparse. Identity confusion has occurred in community discussions (e.g., fears of DOM/DOx mislabel), so treating any unverified sample as potentially long-acting is prudent until lab-checked. Community reports since ~2018–2024 describe mild stimulation, warmth, sociability and low visuals, with many noting that higher single oral doses (≈40–150 mg) were needed for clear effects, implying a wide potency variance and/or material variability. Onset can be slow and subtle, increasing the temptation to redose; wait at least 3 hours before considering any change to reduce overdose/stacking risk. Insufflation has been reported as harsh on the nose/throat with little benefit compared to oral dosing; oral remains the most documented route. As a phenethylamine, transient increases in heart rate and blood pressure are plausible; those with cardiovascular, seizure or serious psychiatric histories should avoid or use extra caution. Strong serotonergic combinations (MAOIs, tramadol, DXM, methylene blue/linezolid, heavy SSRI/SNRI stacking) raise serotonin toxicity risk; lithium has a history of dangerous interactions with psychedelics and should be strictly avoided. Because it is obscure, authenticity and purity are the primary hazards—use professional drug checking where available; if unavailable, start with sub-milligram allergy tests, then single small doses using an accurate milligram scale (or volumetric dosing) and never redose quickly. There are no human pharmacokinetic studies; half-life is unknown, and total effect length should not be assumed to equal elimination half-life. Long-term neurotoxicity or cardiotoxicity data do not exist; prudent spacing between experiences (weeks) and conservative dosing are advisable.
References
Drugs.wiki References
- PiHKAL #8: ARIADNE (Shulgin)
- PiHKAL·info: 4C-D (explore page with synonyms/IDs)
- Bluelight: 4C-D (Ariadne) discussion thread (dose skepticism; mislabel/MAOI concerns)
- Bluelight: 4C-D (75 mg) + Nitrous Oxide – trip report (slow onset, mild profile)
- Reddit: Ariadne/4C-D 37 mg report (user notes, mild effects; dosing commentary)
- Reddit: 4C-D community discussion (higher-dose anecdotes; 40–100+ mg)
- TripSit main site (combo chart resource; HR education)
- TripSit Wiki: Drug combinations (general psychedelic + stimulant/MAOI cautions)
- TripSit updates: combo chart releases (includes lithium on chart)