Hello everyone, this is an experience i documented yesterday while doing a MDA + 2-cb flip. Fun ass trip had an amazing time. If you have any questions ask them and I will try to answer to the best of my ability.
MDA
Well-documented
Well-documented
Multiple authoritative sources agree on dosing and effects.
- 6 corroborating sources
- 1 ROA with full dose ladder
- duration data present
- 20 combo interactions documented
- PubChem toxicity data
Well-documented
Multiple authoritative sources agree on dosing and effects.
- 6 corroborating sources
- 1 ROA with full dose ladder
- duration data present
- 20 combo interactions documented
- PubChem toxicity data
Aliases: Sass, Sally, Sass-a-frass, Tenamfetamine, Sass or sassafras [also used for mdma]
Summary
3,4-Methylenedioxyamphetamine (also known as MDA, and Tenamfetamine, or colloquially as "Sally", "Sass", or "Sass-a-frass") is a synthetic entactogen of the amphetamine chemical class. It produces long-lived entactogenic, stimulant and mild psychedelic effects that include stimulation, anxiety suppression, enhanced feelings of empathy, affection, and sociability, and euphoria when administered.
Perspectives
“The coming on was gradual and pleasant, taking from an hour to an hour and one half to do so. The trip was euphoric and intense despite my having been naturally depleted from a working day and having started so late. One thing that impressed itself upon me was the feeling I got of seeing the play of events, of what I thought to be the significance of certain people coming into my life, and why my ‘dance’, like everyone else’s, is unique. I saw that every encounter or event is a potential for growth, and an opportunity for me to realize my completeness at where I am, here and now, not at some future where I must lug the pieces of the past for a final assemblage ‘there.’ I was reminded of living the moment to its fullest and I felt that seeing this was indicative that I was on the right track.”
“Make no mistake about it, this was a strong roll. 80mg came on fast and whisked me away with a head and body high that took me to the edge. Caution should be exercised both with dose and frequency of use.”
Dose Information
| ROA | Light | Common | Strong | Heavy |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Oral | 40-60mg | 60-100mg | 100-145mg | 145mg+ |
Light
Common
Strong
Heavy
Onset, Duration & After-effects
| ROA | Onset | Comeup | Peak | Offset | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Oral | 30-90 min | 15-45 min | 2.5-4 hrs | 2-3 hrs | 4-8 hrs |
Effect Profile
172 reportsScores (1–10) curated from multiple sources:
- Effect keyword matching from PsychonautWiki catalog
- Validated against 119 Erowid trip reports
- Weighted by importance: core (×3), major (×2), minor (×1)
Psychedelic
6.2
Strong
6/10
Strong body load, visuals, and auditory effects with moderate headspace
Visual Intensity
×3
8
visual geometry
Headspace Depth
×3
6
emotion enhancement
time distortion
Auditory Effects
×1
8
Body Load / Somatic Effects
×1
10
temperature regulation suppression
teeth grinding
increased heart rate
Empathogen
9.1
Intense+
9/10
Strong euphoria, stimulation, sensory enhancement, and empathy
Empathy / Social Openness
×3
8
empathy, affection, and sociability enhancement
Euphoria / Mood Elevation
×2
10
physical euphoria
cognitive euphoria
emotion enhancement
Stimulation
×1
10
stimulation
teeth grinding
increased heart rate
Sensory Enhancement
×1
10
tactile enhancement
increased libido
Stimulant
7.0
Strong+
7/10
Strong euphoria, anxiety/jitters, and stimulation with moderate focus
Stimulation / Energy
×3
8
stimulation
Euphoria / Mood Lift
×2
10
physical euphoria
cognitive euphoria
motivation enhancement
Focus / Productivity
×2
6
motivation enhancement
thought acceleration
Anxiety / Jitters
×1
10
anxiety
teeth grinding
increased heart rate
Tolerance
Build-up
significant tolerance after a single use; more neurotoxic than MDMA
Reset
1–3 months recommended between uses
Tolerance Decay
Full tolerance
1d
Half tolerance
30d
Baseline
~90d
Acute tolerance: develops within a single session — the reset numbers above apply after sustained heavy use, not after one binge. Within-session tachyphylaxis usually resets largely overnight.
Anecdotal and HR‑org guidance indicate rapid acute tolerance with partial decay over 1–3 weeks and baseline in ~1–2+ months; spacing use by several weeks to months is advised. Data are not from controlled human PK/PD studies.
Cross-Tolerances
MDMA
70%
Effects
Aggregated from 119 Erowid and 53 Bluelight experience reports
Positive Effects 75
Euphoria
66.2%
92%
Stimulation
49.1%
86%
Music Enhancement
42.0%
88%
Color Enhancement
37.3%
88%
Empathy
36.7%
85%
Visual Trails
34.0%
87%
Patterning
24.0%
84%
Introspection
23.1%
82%
Body High
22.5%
89%
Tactile Enhancement
22.5%
89%
Love
22.0%
90%
Closed-Eye Visuals
20.1%
89%
Sociability Enhancement
18.0%
88%
Empathogenic Connection
18.0%
88%
Focus Enhancement
17.7%
85%
Geometric Imagery
16.0%
88%
Auditory Effects
14.2%
84%
Morphing
14.0%
88%
Motor Enhancement
14.0%
82%
Tingling
14.0%
85%
Adverse Effects 59
Visual Distortions
50.3%
77%
Anxiety
33.7%
84%
Confusion
26.6%
82%
Nausea
24.2%
82%
Body Load
24.0%
82%
Jaw Clenching
21.3%
86%
Thought Disorganization
16.0%
79%
Depersonalization
14.0%
80%
Sweating
12.4%
85%
Fear
12.0%
87%
Vomiting
10.0%
88%
Insomnia
10.0%
81%
Amnesia
10.0%
87%
Memory Suppression
8.3%
81%
Muscle Tension
8.3%
82%
Involuntary Movements
8.0%
88%
Body Temperature Change
8.0%
86%
Motor Impairment
7.1%
87%
Increased Heart Rate
6.7%
70%
Headache
6.5%
82%
Combinations
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Community Trip Reports
Anecdotal first-person accounts from Reddit, Erowid, and Bluelight. Click a source to expand. Reports are harm-reduction context, not medical guidance.
Reddit 8 reports 2 positive 5 neutral 1 cautionary visit
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Erowid 8 reports 2 positive 4 neutral 2 cautionary visit
Before trying MDA, my experience beforehand was marijuana, mushrooms, ayahuasca, salvia, and MDMA. I defenitely loved MDMA so I knew I was in for something good. I bought a Green Mitsubishi from my roommate, and popped it that night.
One time I used MDA with a lover to help us decide if we were going to stay together or whether she would return to an old lover who was open to her returning. We did the MDA at night on my sundeck. We had a wonderful time together.
An Edgy Contentment an MDA/MDMA Comparison I am a long-time (30+ year) psychedelics/entheogenics user (including a number of major high/heroic-dose experiences under supervision of both of my shamanic teachers).
[Erowid Note: Most MDXX tablets weigh 300mg or less including binders. Futhermore, the intensity and effects described are inconsistent with a 945mg dose, which is considered an extremely high dose (see MDA Dose Chart).
I've tried MDMA 11 times, with my first experience in the summer of 1996, the last few experiences getting less good. Three of the 11 MDMA uses were all under 100mg. I've tried MDE once and enjoyed it.
I had done MDMA twice over the course of many years and was underwhelmed by it, but I remained curious and open. A close, longtime friend has access to high purity substances and conveyed to me that the reason my experience had been lackluster (not bad, just dull) at the time, might be due to the stuff I had procured b...
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My friend absolutely love taking 'Pure Loves' which is 100% MDA. He describes them as a really intense trip. It doesn't hold the lovey-dovey feelings of MDMA, but you still feel really good. I am always willing to try anything (as long as it doesn't kill me the first time), so i agreed to taking a pill.
Bluelight 8 threads 7 neutral 1 cautionary visit
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“The coming on was gradual and pleasant, taking from an hour to an hour and one half to do so. The trip was euphoric and intense despite my having been naturally depleted from a working day and having started so late. One thing that impressed itself upon me was the feeling I got of seeing the play of events, of what I thought to be the significance of certain people coming into my life, and why my ‘dance’, like everyone else’s, is unique. I saw that every encounter or event is a potential for growth, and an opportunity for me to realize my completeness at where I am, here and now, not at some future where I must lug the pieces of the past for a final assemblage ‘there.’ I was reminded of living the moment to its fullest and I felt that seeing this was indicative that I was on the right track.”
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