Helluva Drug I'm 21, male, pretty basic experience with psychedelics. LSD, mushrooms, weed, opiates, a couple 2c's, DMT, MDMA. MDPV does not belong in the same category as the aforementioned substances. It is one hell of a drug, but it is by NO means recreational.
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- 6 corroborating sources
- 5 ROAs with full dose ladders
- duration data present
- 18 combo interactions documented
- classified Tentative
- classified Research-chemical
Encyclopedic
Typical encyclopedia coverage. Cross-reference for important decisions.
- 6 corroborating sources
- 5 ROAs with full dose ladders
- duration data present
- 18 combo interactions documented
- classified Tentative
- classified Research-chemical
Aliases: Rave, Mdpv, Nrg-1, Magic, O-2482, monkey-dust, bath_salts
Summary
3,4-Methylenedioxypyrovalerone (also known as MDPV, and Monkey Dust) is a novel lesser-known stimulant substance of the cathinone and pyrrolidine classes. It is known to be one of the most powerful and potent stimulants. MDPV is thought to act primarily as a norepinephrine-dopamine reuptake inhibitor (NDRI).
Dose Information
| ROA | Light | Common | Strong | Heavy |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Oral | 4-8mg | 8-14mg | 14-25mg | 25mg+ |
| Insufflated | 2-5mg | 5-11mg | 10-20mg | 20mg+ |
| Oral / Sublingual | 10-20mg | 20-35mg | 35mg | 35mg+ |
| Rectal | 3-8mg | 6-12mg | 10-25mg | 25mg+ |
| Smoked | 1-5mg | 5-10mg | 10-20mg | 20mg+ |
Light
Common
Strong
Heavy
Onset, Duration & After-effects
| ROA | Onset | Comeup | Peak | Offset | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Oral | 30-90 min | 30-60 min | 1-3 hrs | 2-4 hrs | - |
| Insufflated | 5-15 min | 15-30 min | 1-2 hrs | 2-3 hrs | - |
| Vaporized | - | 5-15 min | 30-90 min | 1-3 hrs | - |
| Oral / Sublingual | 15-45 min | 30-60 min | 0.5-3 hrs | 0.5-2 hrs | - |
| Vaporized / Smoked | 0-1 min | 5-15 min | 0.5-2 hrs | 30-60 min | - |
| Rectal | 5-10 min | 15-30 min | 0.5-2 hrs | 30-60 min | - |
| Smoked | - | 1-5 min | 1-2 hrs | 2-4 hrs | 4-8 hrs |
Effect Profile
107 reportsScores (1–10) curated from multiple sources:
- Effect keyword matching from PsychonautWiki catalog
- Validated against 107 Erowid trip reports
- Weighted by importance: core (×3), major (×2), minor (×1)
Empathogen
7.9
Intense
8/10
Strong euphoria and stimulation with moderate sensory enhancement and empathy
Empathy / Social Openness
×3
6
empathy, affection and sociability enhancement
Euphoria / Mood Elevation
×2
10
physical euphoria
cognitive euphoria
euphoria
mood enhancement
Stimulation
×1
10
stimulation
increased energy
wakefulness
alertness
teeth grinding
restlessness
+1 more
Sensory Enhancement
×1
7
increased libido
Stimulant
8.8
Intense+
9/10
Strong stimulation, euphoria, focus, and anxiety/jitters
Stimulation / Energy
×3
10
stimulation
increased energy
wakefulness
alertness
Euphoria / Mood Lift
×2
10
physical euphoria
cognitive euphoria
euphoria
mood enhancement
motivation enhancement
Focus / Productivity
×2
10
focus enhancement
motivation enhancement
thought acceleration
Anxiety / Jitters
×1
10
anxiety
restlessness
paranoia
teeth grinding
increased heart rate
vasoconstriction
+1 more
Based on reports from:
Tolerance
Build-up
develops over days to weeks of regular use
Reset
3โ7 days for acute; 1โ3 weeks for full reset
Tolerance Decay
Full tolerance
1d
Half tolerance
4d
Baseline
~21d
Acute tolerance: develops within a single session โ the reset numbers above apply after sustained heavy use, not after one binge. Within-session tachyphylaxis usually resets largely overnight.
Strong acute tolerance within a session with rapidly diminishing euphoria; interโsession tolerance decays over several days. Data are largely anecdotal from user reports across pyrrolidinophenones; individual variability is large.
Cross-Tolerances
Effects
Aggregated from 107 Erowid experience reports
Positive Effects 10
Stimulation
57.0%
70%
Euphoria
55.1%
70%
Focus Enhancement
34.6%
70%
Empathy
25.2%
70%
Music Enhancement
20.6%
70%
Tactile Enhancement
17.8%
70%
Color Enhancement
12.1%
70%
Creativity Enhancement
10.3%
70%
Introspection
8.4%
70%
Body High
4.7%
70%
Adverse Effects 13
Anxiety
49.5%
70%
Increased Heart Rate
25.2%
70%
Confusion
19.6%
70%
Jaw Clenching
13.1%
70%
Headache
12.1%
70%
Psychosis
11.2%
70%
Nausea
11.2%
70%
Pupil Dilation
10.3%
70%
Muscle Tension
9.3%
70%
Sweating
8.4%
70%
Motor Impairment
6.5%
70%
Memory Suppression
2.8%
70%
Appetite Suppression
2.8%
70%
Combinations
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Anecdotal first-person accounts from Reddit, Erowid, and Bluelight. Click a source to expand. Reports are harm-reduction context, not medical guidance.
Erowid 8 reports 3 positive 3 neutral 2 cautionary visit
MDPV Amazing I have purchased pure MDPV multiple times and can say it is not my favorite drug but the price and high is great. Everyone seems to hate on MDPV. I have gone through grams I came down. I have vaporized insufflated and orally.
I had the most amazing experience on this drug. In retrospect, I would do this over and over again. I can see why it is said to be highly addictive, feeling the need to redose constantly as my friends all tried more and more of the chemical.
I sought to purchase either Prolintane HCl or MDPV to experience an uncommon stimulant with my friend Drew. MethyleneDioxyPyroValerone won. Got lucky with Prolintane HCl just once, which I predict to be the next wonder designer drug that catches on as its legal worldwide and OTC in Spain.
Very rarely do I ever feel compelled to share my experiences with masses of people, but this is one that I feel very good about. Methylenedioxypyrovalerone is pretty much unheard of in most drug cultures. I guess one could say it is the 'new kid on the block', though pyrovalerone has been on the market since the 60's.
My experiments to date with MDPV have left me feeling rather unimpressed. Itยs adequate for use as a stimulant and while I enjoy the primary effects of the substance, the harsh come-down usually renders the entire experience not worth the ultimate punishment.
Insidious Neurological Poison - AVOID AT ALL COSTS - A DIRE WARNING (M)ost (D)evilish (P)owdered E(V)IL If there ever was a substance that could make anyone a zombie . . .
[Erowid Note: Cannabis substitute "spice" type smoking blends, "Bath salts", "plant food", "incense", "tea" and similar products generally do not accurately list psychoactive ingredients or dosage on their packaging. Analysis has revealed that ingredients in a single product of this type may vary over time.
Bluelight 8 threads 6 neutral 2 cautionary visit
Approximately four years ago I saw a short documentary on VICE about a young man traveling to Nepal to partake on the perilous journey to consume Mad Honey in the Himalayas. Like many, I was attracted to how the honey was portrayed, touting it as a psychedelic.
An experience within an experience - " synchronicity is playing hide and seek. " __________________________________ For such a long time I've been in a haze, not by fault of one particular incidance but because my 'box' had been trampled on.
Hi All I thought I'd better post this to a forum while I'm in the right frame of mind to, as I'd like to give you all a heads up on a few of the 'issues' I have encountered with NRG-1, since my first try in early April. To be honest the first try, like the majority of the time, was pretty good.
Initial descriptions and reports had its origins in an own thread in ADD: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=261562 Since this is the first full dose trial of this (in fact not so) new compound I thought it was worth posting here,particularly because the compound disproved its bad rumours.So read this as the c...
***This trip report covers 2 days The first day i had good sleep and ate healthly second day all i had was breakfast.*** I acquired some Nrg-1 yesterday despite the fact i heard all these horror stories i was willing to give it a try, Inside the bag containing 0.5 gram of Naphyrone/nrg-1 was a flakey cornstarch like su...
My First Experience With MDPV, And Beyond! Thoughts, mistakes, things that worked for me, and more! Initially intended to post on the MDPV Mega-thread, but I think it would be better off here as it is more Trip Report than General discussion/questions/info.
Hello, I have used tiny amounts of MDPV on a few occasions. I do not at the moment have 0.001g scales although they are on their way and should be with me soon. Although I do not have any scales that can measure out 10mg accurately, I felt that I could eyeball the dose on the first few occasions.
I am very glad to be alive, but also very lucky. In the last 24 hours I have learned a very unpleasant yet valuable lesson in the dangers of NRG1 or any legal high when used to excess. Let me start from the beginning. Thursday morning - My order of NRG1 arrives via Royal Mail Signed delivery.
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