ETH-LAD is by far the most intense psychedelic I've ever tried, my three most profound experiences were all with ETH-LAD. Here I'll be writing about my most intense experience with 275ug, the highest dose I took, it was much more intense then even 750ug on normal LSD, no words can describe it.
ETH-LAD
Well-documented
Well-documented
Multiple authoritative sources agree on dosing and effects.
- 6 corroborating sources
- 1 ROA with full dose ladder
- duration data present
- 19 combo interactions documented
- PubChem toxicity data
- classified Research-chemical
Well-documented
Multiple authoritative sources agree on dosing and effects.
- 6 corroborating sources
- 1 ROA with full dose ladder
- duration data present
- 19 combo interactions documented
- PubChem toxicity data
- classified Research-chemical
Aliases: N-ethyl-nor-lsd, ethlad
Summary
6-Ethyl-6-nor-lysergic acid diethylamide (also known as N-Ethyl-nor-lysergic acid N,N-diethylamide, N-Ethyl-nor-LSD, It has been marketed alongside psychedelic lysergamides like 1P-LSD and AL-LAD as a legal, grey-market alternative to LSD, and commercially distributed through online research chemical vendors. ETH-LAD has been shown to be moderately to significantly more potent than LSD itself in animal studies with an active dose reported at between 40 and 100 micrograms. Anecdotal reports suggest that while it produces similar effects to LSD at low to common doses, it displays a notably divergent effects profile at higher doses, sometimes described as producing "algorithmic" and "warped" visual and auditory distortions, combined with a more "introspective" and "analytical", if not more "neutral" head space.
Perspectives
“This feels like LSDโs ripply awkward cousin. I feel as though this drug instilled a sort of anxiety in me during the trip that certainly wasnโt present in my mindset going in. It was certainly interesting, and pretty similar to LSD.”
“This has a very real effect at this level, whereas I have no response at all from LSD at 20 mikes.”
Dose Information
| ROA | Light | Common | Strong | Heavy |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Oral | 30-60ยตg | 60-150ยตg | 150-225ยตg | 225ยตg+ |
Light
Common
Strong
Heavy
Onset, Duration & After-effects
| ROA | Onset | Comeup | Peak | Offset | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Oral | 20-40 min | 45-90 min | 4-6 hrs | 2-4 hrs | 8-12 hrs |
Effect Profile
32 reportsScores (1–10) curated from multiple sources:
- Effect keyword matching from PsychonautWiki catalog
- Validated against 23 Erowid trip reports
- Weighted by importance: core (×3), major (×2), minor (×1)
Psychedelic
8.8
Intense+
9/10
Strong visuals, headspace, auditory effects, and body load
Visual Intensity
×3
10
visual geometry
color enhancement
drifting
tracers
synaesthesia
pattern recognition enhancement
Headspace Depth
×3
10
introspection
thought loops
time distortion
confusion
Auditory Effects
×1
10
auditory enhancement
auditory distortion
auditory hallucination
synaesthesia
Body Load / Somatic Effects
×1
10
nausea
temperature regulation suppression
bodily pressures
increased heart rate
Tolerance
Build-up
develops rapidly after a single use
Reset
7โ14 days for baseline
Tolerance Decay
Full tolerance
1h
Half tolerance
10d
Baseline
~14d
Acute tolerance: develops within a single session โ the reset numbers above apply after sustained heavy use, not after one binge. Within-session tachyphylaxis usually resets largely overnight.
Effects
Aggregated from 23 Erowid and 9 Bluelight experience reports
Positive Effects 38
Color Enhancement
59.4%
95%
Music Enhancement
46.9%
90%
Empathy
43.5%
70%
Euphoria
37.5%
82%
Focus Enhancement
34.8%
70%
Closed-Eye Visuals
34.4%
85%
Warping
33.3%
85%
Patterning
33.3%
83%
Morphing
33.3%
85%
Introspection
25.0%
75%
Entity Imagery
22.2%
80%
Visual Vibration
22.2%
85%
Texture Rippling
22.2%
80%
Contentment
22.2%
82%
Sociability Enhancement
22.2%
82%
Appetite Increase
22.2%
85%
Creativity Enhancement
22.2%
82%
Open-Eye Visuals
21.9%
88%
Body High
18.8%
85%
Brightness Enhancement
11.1%
90%
Adverse Effects 19
Nausea
46.9%
92%
Body Load
44.4%
89%
Confusion
43.7%
83%
Muscle Tension
39.1%
70%
Anxiety
37.5%
88%
Increased Heart Rate
30.4%
70%
Motor Suppression
22.2%
82%
Panic
22.2%
85%
Ego Dissolution
15.6%
92%
Memory Suppression
13.0%
70%
Thought Loops
12.5%
85%
Stomach Cramps
11.1%
80%
Tremor
11.1%
75%
Vomiting
11.1%
95%
Temporal Disorientation
11.1%
90%
Auditory-Visual Synesthesia
11.1%
80%
Fear
11.1%
80%
Focus Suppression
11.1%
75%
Fatigue
11.1%
70%
Combinations
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Community Trip Reports
Anecdotal first-person accounts from Reddit, Erowid, and Bluelight. Click a source to expand. Reports are harm-reduction context, not medical guidance.
Erowid 8 reports 1 positive 5 neutral 2 cautionary visit
When I came into the online psychedelic scene, the fact that there exist many novel lysergamides besides LSD was well-known, but the idea of any of them being available seemed a flight of fancy. For whatever reason, no one had decided to make them available, probably due to difficulty of synthesis.
T0:00-Dose taken T0:30-Feel the onset, manifests in some tooth grinding and a slight faint dissociated feeling. T1:30-Iยm hanging out with my roommate downstairs.
Last night my SO, my roommate, and our friend N decided to trip together for N's birthday. The setting was my house: Hot tub, projector for movies, and my bedroom set up with an awesome sound system and green lightbulbs.
Since I was a young child, I had always been friends with my next door neighbor Billy. But Billy was leaving to backpack around Europe for 5 months (freaking sweet), so we decided we would send him off with a psychedelic trip.
An Excellent Experience 323pm, trying 2 tabs of 100ug eth-lad. 200ug total. Just put it in my mouth for a buccal ingestion method. I'll let it sit for 45 mins and update when I remove it. In the mean time, I'm going to take a shower. Current mindset: its the day before Thanksgiving.
This is my first report, it might not be the best but I'm going to try. This was a very glowing experience. My mindset going in to the trip is as normal as I get, I do suffer from depression and have my ups and downs.
Set and Setting - At partner's house, cleaned house and made food to eat prior, had set night aside for being open to art, dance, intimacy, singing or whatever expression came up and out. I did reagent testing on the tabs which had the print of structure on one side and ETH-LAD on the other.
Bluelight 7 threads 6 neutral 1 cautionary visit
Hello again everyone, this is my first time writing a trip report since back in February. A lot has happened this year that has kept me away from here and from taking psychedelics, but it would seem that the worst of it is finally over now.
EXPERIENCE: 20+ years of psychedelics, including mushrooms, LSD, mescaline, 2C-x, LSZ, AL-LAD, one previous trial of ETH-LAD at a lower dosage of 150ยตg. Also have used various other psychedelics, dissociatives and other drugs. TOLERANCE: No psychedelics used for ~7 weeks, so basically no tolerance.
Yesterday I tried ETH-LAD for the first time. It was really special and it blew me away! Set & Setting My mindset was okay, but I had been drinking a bit too much the week before, work involves a lot of deadlines and had an issue with my routines and a lot of tiredness, so I was not 100% sure if I was up to it, to trip...
Substance: ETH-LAD ROA: Two 100ug tabs, taken sublingually Duration: ~ 8 hours Test subject: 145 lbs, male, early 20s. This trip took place a couple of months ago. I never got around to uploading it because I'm a habitual procrastinator.
This was my first time with ETH-LAD, although two weeks ago I ate a 1/4 tab to test the waters and immediately spat it out, as it had a sour taste to it. Not strong, but enough to make me wonder about and, spit out within about 20 seconds.
Hi, I have been into psychedelics for several decades, and have done many sheets of LSD over the years and it has always been my favorite, with the possible exceptions of high-dose mushroom trips. So yeah...LSD, LSZ, AL-LAD, ALD-52, 4-aco-dmt, Mescaline, so on.
(this wil be a running edit until its finalized) I was unsure if I should even eat this. We were to go to the neighbours for a bonefire with the kids. I sent R over and I himmed and hawed. Aww fuck it, why not.
Bluelight Reference Guide
Lysergamides The Big & Dandy ETH-LAD Thread
Welcome to the central ETH-LAD thread formula = 6-ethyl-6-nor-lysergic acid diethylamide IUPAC formula = (6aR,9R)-N,N-diethyl-7-ethyl-4,6,6a,7,8,9-hexahydroindolo-[4,3-fg]quinoline-9-carboxamide Info ETH-LAD is an analogue of LSD, a homologue to be specific - in the series AL-LAD also belongs to.
Read full thread on Bluelight โPiHKAL / TiHKAL
TiHKAL #12: ETH-LAD
“This has a very real effect at this level, whereas I have no response at all from LSD at 20 mikes.”
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